Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Leaving the Left

In this first of a series of upcoming installments a lady gets honest about the state of the Left from an insider's perspective. In this video this person stands true to herself and gives an honest and simple appraisal of why leftists have decided to support jihadis and ignore the awful truth about Islam. It seems that she was taken by surprise as to how leftists would react to rise of Muslim militancy as it starts creeping into non-Muslim societies.



I consider myself to have been lucky to know what Islam was about before the rest of the Left went for a mass cliff-diving session that they will never recover from. In fact, I knew about direct Palestinian involvement in Nicaragua in the Eighties so I wasn't taken by surprise by how grotesque the Islamist worldview is.

Somehow, others who should have been on top of that situation let it slip by right under their noses for decades. I really can't see much chance of a democratically grounded, anti-authoritarian socialist gaining a foothold in North American politics for at least another generation or two if ever.

However, the public relations disaster this has been for the Left may have a bright side. It seems that the hardcore Trotskyites and Maoists are representative of this tendency and since they are so prone to internal quarreling the possibility of complete disintegration is quite likely. After all, these kind of organizations are already splintered off into a myriad of factions over the past few decades.

It is also a matter of demographics since many of them are getting older. They entered their alliance with jihadis with a view to converting them to their versions of authoritarian socialism. This has failed miserably and the old saying the "ideologies tend to die when their proponents die off" is especially relevant in this case.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

You know, the Islamists do have a sick world view, and I agree with you that liberals are too PC. I'm Somali and I consider myself a Muslim. Currently, in Somalia there has been a rise of militant seperatism, and one group, AL Shabab, has been classified as a bonafide terrorist group with ties to Al Qaeda. On a lot of the leftist blogs I read like Daily Kos and C & L's many of them refuse the reocgize Al Shabab for what they are, terrorism-touting boneheads bent on the destruction of Somalia's fragile transitional statehood.

I mean, personally, I don't consider a Hamas a terrorist orgination, but they do engage in extreme and violent means for political gains, and that is wrong. But it one has to look at it at from their view, they feel their soverignty has been undermined since 1967, and therefore launching missles in Israeli settelments and underminging Israel's soveirgnty is an eye-for-an-eye tactic.

But Al Shabab was not democratically elected nor is it furthering what most would consider a cause, and that's why I don't get why some liberals can't muster up the courage to say what they are, terrorists.

Anyway, that's my opinion. I can tell you're not the biggest fan of Islam, but I agree with this post, nonetheless.

Peace,

cs

Ansar al-Zindiqi said...

Thanks for replying and please accept my apologies for my late re-reply. We can differ on Hamas without much fuss. If you are interested there are the forums at faithfreedom.org and councilofexmuslims.com where ideas and opinions are discussed a lot. I recommend the councilofexmuslims.com forums since it is smaller and there happens to be someone of Somali background posting there who is a decent person. I still post at faithfreedom.org but some of the anti-Islam postings are too overboard for my tastes a lot of the time. I may not be the biggest fan of Islam but I can't say that I hate it like so many others state openly. After all, why should I hate Islam when I study it so much? Take care and peace.

Anonymous said...

I don't respect Hamas, but they were democratically elected, and that's why don't refer to them as a terrorist organization--being democratically elected won't make them any less malign until they denounce violence, and recognize Israel, though. This is Vladmir Putin's position on them as well (Russia doesn't have them on their terror list).

As for the forums you recommended, I've checked out those sites on numerous occasions. They're not really my taste. Mostly because they where "ex-Muslim" as some sort of badge of honour to score brownie points with the neoconservative movement. The selective condemnation is nauseating.

I consider myself a proponent of Evolution, semi-Agnostic and an equal opportunity scrutinizer. The Quran, as well as the other Abrahamic holy books, are merely spiritual doctrines. They're all fallible.

By recommending that site you're engaging secular proselitization. If you think it's annoying when Muslims and Christians preach their faith at random passersby, it's even more annoying when someone tries to deconvert someone by sharing a link to a cabal of demagogues. Spare me.

Ansar al-Zindiqi said...
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Ansar al-Zindiqi said...

That's quite the way of responding. I'm nice to you and you react like that? You have hardly scratched the surface of Islam and you show it when you claim that the "The Quran, as well as the other Abrahamic holy books, are merely spiritual doctrines." This is tantamount to making this stance an article of faith when all it shows is intellectual laziness. On that score you might as well be devising new stratagems for evading the awful truth about Islam. Your attempt at projecting a syncretistic persona by claiming to be "a proponent of Evolution, semi-agnostic and an equal opportunity scrutinizer" is as dishonest as it is typical of leftists whose attitudes have landed them flat on their faces.

Anybody who smuggles in a pro-Hamas stance as you have should be informed that this was exactly the same type of apologia that many made in regards to Nazism in the 1930's. You might as well be a highly-educated German of that time. Mixing it in with a short knock on ex-Muslims who are concerned enough about how they can no longer accept Islam as being collaborators to neo-conservatives is a common enough slur and it doesn't take me (nor others) long to figure out where you cribbed that distorted schema from.

I overestimated you and you underestimate the capacity of the human spirit to challenge and overcome a totalitarian system of mind control. If you have the gumption to respond like you have then guess what? I'm going to post this somewhere for others to look at.